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Happiness JEB: And that is what helps you focus better in your practice? JG: Correct. JEB: Correct, and then the physical part also helps you focus better in your prac- tice? JG: The physical part makes you feel better and obviously one performs better when one’s mind and body are oxygenat- ed. JEB: Right. And it’s a balance, right, be- cause even the quote that I just read was about bringing peace to others in peace, but you are in an art that involves fighting and you are in a profession that involves fighting. So is there a way to be engaged in a profession that involves fighting in a peaceful way? JG: I think we all have dealt with law- yers that are consumed with being bellig- erent and confrontational. Quite frankly, I view those lawyers as insecure and weak in a very fundamental way. There is a big dif- ference between an aggressive advocate and a jerk. Aggressive advocates can some- times be very effective. Jerks almost never are. So that is the key about being aggres- sive without being a belligerent jerk... JEB: Is to not let it consume you. That makes sense. JG: Yes, because I tend to think that con- ducting oneself consumed by the aggres- sion leads to other behaviors that are prob- lematic for people in their personal lives. We don’t see it because we only deal with those people professionally. But I guaran- tee you those behaviors are there in their personal lives also and can wind up causing them real problems. the age of 60 is that if I was my father, I would have 3 years left to live. I am thus glad that I have not waited to pursue my passions. JEB: These interviews focus on work- life balance and unfortunately, some of the people I talked to found that they had to retire to fully pursue whatever their pas- sion was where some of the younger ones felt like that could continue a balance. But I’m hopeful that you are not retiring in or- der to give 100% effort to karate, but you are still finding that you can balance them both? JG: Yes. JEB: Right, well, not necessarily for you. But you are obviously taking care of your mind and your body and I assume you plan to live to 100. JG: Well, that’s right, but I mean if you put off the things that are important until after you retire, you may never get there. JEB: Even at almost 60? JG: Yes. I think that, well certainly I don’t practice as much as I would like to. When I retire, I certainly want to practice more and my bucket list still contains 3 or 4 other martial arts that I want to experience. JEB: A bucket list of martial arts…. JG: …yes, when I retire. But in the mean- time, I think that you still must find a bal- ance during your law practice, otherwise, you are going to give an ill accounting of yourself when the time comes to look back on your life and evaluate if it was all mis- spent. JEB: Right. You only live once, so you have to do something that excites you but you also have to put food on the table… JG: Yes, that is correct. Now, I will tell you one thing that weighs on my mind at JEB: You may never get there. So would your advice to our readers be to not wait to pursue your passions? JG: I would not wait and it’s a cliché, but I think one has to make time for these things because ultimately, if you don’t, you may regret it. JEB: And you have a successful practice, and you do put food on the table. JG: Some days it is actually much more successful than is manageable. I am fortu- nate that my practice has been successful. There are times when it’s a struggle to pur- sue my passions in spite of that. Most days when I get up in the morning I say “gee, I really should get into the office early and not go train because I have something that I really have to do.” So it is a constant struggle trying to maintain that balance. JEB: The argument in your head. JG: Yup. JEB: The fight about which thing is more important. JG: Exactly. JEB: So you stated that the practice of martial arts has governed your life and your practice. Do you have a quote or mantra that describes this or keeps you going? JG: I guess I would summarize it with an old GoJu proverb, and I sometimes actually say this to myself when I walk through the door here in the morning, going back to the meaning of GoJu , which is hard/soft: “be as hard a HܛXZ\[HH[\ٝ\Hܛ][HK'BPYXZ ]8&\[X[ Y[\ZB[[ܙ]HH[[H[KB[HXXHوH]ˈH[x&[]H[H[\Y]\K[X]B]Y[[ˈ[[H]X܈\[˂Έ[[[K]\HX\\K‘[H[Z[]H[\[܈B[HY[X\H[\Y]Y܂\Z]و\[\[XZ[YH]X\ܙ˂MHTSӕTTS8(S M˝\ܙ