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Happiness the time. So he just sat and watched others work with me. After two days or so, he took me out to lunch and he said ‘ok, you come train now,’ meaning that I was in. My training sort of got completed there, because I was able to get instruction from the top people in the world and ultimately graded over there several times as well. Now I am at this won- derful stage where, and I will never say I know this style inside out, I can focus on re- fining what I already know. JEB: And you were in your early 30’s I believe you said? JG: I was probably in my mid 30’s when I started training with Chuck Merriman down in Connecticut. JEB: And you were practicing law full time? JG: Oh yeah. JEB: Ok. Did you have a family too? JG: Oh yes. JEB: You are raising a family, you have a full-time law practice and you are doing this? JG: Yes, right and they were certainly very understanding about that and I was very careful to make sure I was doing what needed to be done at home and at work. This is something that was so much a part of me that I just didn’t want to let it go of it and I am very grateful that I didn’t. I will say that I think the practice of law is one of the most unhealthy professions that there is and karate has helped me deal with that. JEB: That is a recurring theme. JG: I see a lot of lawyers my age, and I think that they are headed for major, major physical problems. JEB: Well there is an increase of focus on wellness and wellness education now. There have been a few recent studies with hard data about how much substance abuse or stress induced illnesses are pres- ent within the practice of law. It is a huge number. JG: I think that if a lawyer does not have another passion in their life of some kind, they are headed for serious trouble. If not physical trouble, then certainly psychologi- cal trouble, and I can say that certainly after watching the number of lawyers who have gotten into trouble, both physically and emotionally, over the course of my career. JEB: That is one of VBA President and Bar Counsel, Mike Kennedy’s biggest re- current themes. We were just talking the other day and he essentially said that he believes you have got to have a passion or a hobby outside the practice of law to 12 keep you sane and healthy. JG: And the biggest struggle is of course if it’s a passion that requires a lot of time. The way that I do that is I put in an hour and a half at 6 o’clock every morning, because not much is happening here in the office yet and then also on Saturday morning for 2 hours as well. It is not really enough but at least it is maintenance. JEB: Right. Even just working out is do- ing something to stay healthy. A lot of at- torneys are finding, ok if I can get up at 6 and do the workout, I am just better for it, a better lawyer for it. JG: Absolutely. My training has been great physical exercise, but it has also grounded me in my head as far as keeping things in perspective, and that I think is just as important as the physical side. JEB: When researching for this inter- view I found this quote from Miyagi Cho- jun the founder of GoJu Ryu: “the ultimate aim of karate-do is to build character, con- quer human misery and find spiritual free- dom.” Is that correct? JG: That is absolutely correct, and what happened when the Americans original- ly brought karate back here is they didn’t train for very long in Okinawa so they didn’t understand the underlying purpose, so they tended to emphasize the fighting. JEB: Yeah, the fighting, not the spiritual freedom. JG: Yes, because they had not spent enough time there to become in touch with the other things that were important, but that is an excellent summation from my perspective of what karate means to me, especially as I get older and I can’t do some of the things I could do when I was young- er. JEB: You mentioned taking up Tai Chi recently, is that a transition that you find is easier when you are older to keep the mental but not as physically demanding? JG: Tai Chi is something I have always been interested in, because Tai Chi is re- ally the original Asian martial art. I am go- ing to be 60 this mon Ѡ$݅ѕѼ)ѼѥՔѼɅѡȁɥх)Ё́䁅ѼɅѥѕ͕䁥)Ʌє́ѼɅєM$ѽQ) ѼѥՔɹ܁ѡ́́ѥ)́))!䁉ѡ䄁eԁeЁЄ))$ɕєѡи啅ȁ)$хѕՑ她e屔Q )ݡ́ѡȁ展́ݥѠ)ѽՑЁٕ䁙́-չԽQ) Սѽȁe)ݥ5$)ٔɅݥѠѠ)ЁȀ́́Ёͥāѕɹ)Q!YI5=9P H)=UI9010)ѠхѥѼɽɕ́ѡи)Y䁑ɕЁɽɅєѡ)Ք$ٔ́ѡЁ䁽ѡѡ́$)ٔȀ啅́Ʌєɔ+qɽt́ȁ́Q ́ɹ))MͻeЁQ хѥٔ))=Qɕͽ$ͽ՝ЁЁѡ)ѥձȁՍѽȁ́ѡЁQ )х՝Ё̸݅Q ɥ݅)ͽѕ䁽ɥѕѼ͕͔)ѡɕͽѡЁ$Ց她ѡ́ѥԴ)ȁɅѥ͔́ѡ䁡ٔɕх)ѡѥѥ́ѡɴͼЁ)хѥ͕͔ٔɥѕЁѡ)ͅѥ))$eЁѡɥ́չх)Q ѼѥٔЁɽݡ)'e͕ٔɽѡͱ܁ɵ̸))9ЁЁQɥ䁙ɴ)ɥQ ́ͽѡ+q͠ϊt͕́Ѽչ)Ё́ɕչͼ)Q ́ɕ䁵ɔչЁ)́ѥٔɴѡȁхɅє)ݡ́ɝɥѡѼ̴)ȁѕЁЁͅѥձѥ́ѡ)ѡ́ѡи))eԁݕɔхЁչ)ȁ̰ɥ)) ɕиQѡȁѡ$ݥ)ͅ䁅ЁQ ́ѡɔ́Ѽ쁥)́ͽѡԁձՑ䁙Ȁ啅)ԁѥݽeӊ)) ѕ))9ѡЁ́ͽѡѡЁ)ٕ䁥хЁ$ѡͼ́ѡЁ)ѕٕ́ٔȁɕɕѼѡ)͕ٕ́̃qѕˊtȃqɅѕˊt)ѡ͔ѡи5ѕȁ=)݄5ѼM͕݅́)ɅєՍѽȁݥѠɽ)ٕȁѡݽɱѼՑݥѠQ)ѥѱȁ䁽ѕ́ٔ)ٕȁ͕̃qM͕tݡ̃qѕ)ȳtЁѕȁȁͽѡȁɱѥٔ))ԁѥ܁Ѽѡݡ)͕ѡ))=ͽѕ䰁ЁѡЁ́ѡ)ѡͥѥѱqѕˊt݅́Ʌ)՝ȁѡ))$ѡи))Q䁑eЁѼqѕˊt)ȃqɅѕˊtȃqɽͽˊtȁ䁽)ѡ́ѡȁ͕͔ѡЁɽ́ͽ)ɥɅє̸͍))ɽɕ$չѽѼ)Ѽٔѡȁٕ́а)ԁٔѼѕ%́ѡЁɕ))]ѡɕͥ)̃qѼ)ѕ́Ѽɸt́݅䁽ɽɕ̴)ܹщȹɜ