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Interview with Justice Brian Burgess then, of course, after the appointment I hardly ever saw him again. Douglas was the same way. I would know him to say hello on the street and he knew me a little from the legislature, but I never had any personal interactions with him except to say hello. KK: That brings us to the Supreme Court. You sat on the Supreme Court from 2005 to 2013. There were a few substantive workers’ compensation decisions that came down during that time. There were six affirmed, four reversed, and four of them had splits in them. A lot of your workers’ compensation decisions seem to rest upon your plain reading of the statute. Is that a judicial philosophy you have in general or is that something particular to the Workers’ Compensation Act? JB: I think it is just my philosophy of statutory construction. I would not categorize myself as an originalist, but you start with the language and do the best you can. I am the first to the admit, of course, with the number of dissents I had, that everyone does not see the meaning quite as plainly as I do. And, of course, you are asking yourself, “How can I be so right?” But, no, I think especially with a statute like workers’ comp, it seemed to me that if you start to branch off from the plainest meaning that you can find, because of the insurance rates and the impact on the industry, I think straying from the plain meaning of the statute can be quite far reaching. So I think my own judicial philosophy is “stick to the statute.” If there are policy decisions made there and if people think it ought to be more liberal, or if people think it needs to be more conservative, they need to go get a political fix to this and not look to the courts to fix what the legislature has not yet addressed. I know not everybody agrees with that, but that is my general approach. KK: That sounds somewhat like the majority of opinion in Lydy [v. Trustaff, Inc.],4 one of your last workers’ compensation cases, dealing with the average weekly wage issue. Justice Reiber and Justice Robinson dissent from it, and Justice Skoglund writes the majority opinion interpreting the term “wages” in the Act. JB: That was whether you could use the value of the health insurance benefit as wage. KK: Correct. JB: Yeah, there is a strong argument to be made in favor of that interpretation and my two collegues wrote that. Justice Skoglund, Justice Dooley, and I just did not see it that way. That would be quite a broadening of the statute. Some jurisdictions have gone in that direction, but I think we found that most had not. 26 KK: In part, the majority opinion was essentially looking at the fact that the department had looked at the term “wages” in that manner for many years and the legislature had not done anything about it. What, if any, is the deference you usually give to an administrative agency interpretation of the Act when the legislature may or may not have acted on that issue in the past? JB: Well, I guess I will not elucidate further than the opinion states, but I know that some would argue that when the legislature specifically addresses an issue, then it’s more fair to say the legislature has addressed it. And perhaps the obverse is that you can rely upon inaction of the legislature if you don’t see that it has not been raised. Is that the same kind of endorsement? I recognize there is some tension there. The majority went in our direction. I guess we relied in part upon that. I won’t comment further than what the opinion said. KK: Similarly in Cyr v. McDermotts,5 you and Chief Justice Reiber dissented from the majority opinion in that case. That decision was written by Justice Skoglund. The main issue here was the intoxication defense, which is an affirmative defense within workers’ compensation . JB: The statute had words to the affect of “caused by or during intoxication.” This was a terrible case. This guy was horribly injured, but he was injured at home. Sort of a chain reaction kind of case, whether he was intoxicated really had nothing to do with him performing work. I will not go beyond that, but I think our dissent was on having two operative phrases—“caused by” being one, “or during” being the other—and we read those as two separate things. I think the majority found the opposite, it was all one continuum and they were satisfied that they had a better read on the legislative attempt then the dissent. KK: You mentioned earlier in our discussion the number of dissents that you wrote, not just in workers’ comp, but in general when you were on the Court. What is the role of a dissenting justice’s opinion? You are working very closely with a small group of people, and dissents slow down the workflow because we have to wait for the dissents to come back. How do you view the role of a dissenting Justice? JB: I was asked this by the Senate at the time of confirmation and my response is something along the lines of: [