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Interview with Bob Paolini long. So in 1974, when the Defender General’s Office got a grant to establish a juvenile defender’s office, I applied for that position and was the first juvenile defender. TC: I had no idea. BP: I stayed from 1974 through sometime in 1977, in various roles in the defense system. Juvenile defender, then deputy defender general, then got assigned out to the Washington County Public Defender’s Office in Barre, and I guess it was a total of about 4 years that I did that. And along the way within the Defender General’s system I met and worked with Charlie Martin who is an attorney and lives here on Court Street but practices in Barre. When I left the Defender General’s Office, Charlie and I hooked up and formed Martin & Paolini, where I was from 1977 or 1978, until February of 1996, when I came to the VBA. TC: Oh. I didn’t realize that you had that experience in the Defender General’s Office and with the Defender General system. You would think that Matt Valerio would be a little more respectful towards you. BP: No, I would never think that. No. TC: (Laughing) BP: During the time when I was in practice with Charlie—so about 30 years ago now—I was elected to the Vermont House, where I represented a district that was made up of Waterbury, Duxbury, Huntington, and Buels Gore. TC: Now, what year was that? BP: I got elected in 1986 and then again in 1988. So I served two terms, all four years on the House Judiciary Committee, and the latter two years as vice-chair under then chairperson, Amy Davenport. TC: How interesting. BP: That was one of the highlights of my career, serving those four years in the House. I served on the Judicial Retention Committee, again as vice-chair under the late John Bloomer, who was the Senate chair during that time. I credit those four years, probably more than anything else, with helping me get this job. TC: What led you to apply for this job in 1996? BP: Well, I had left the legislature in 1990, went back into practice and this job opened up sometime in late 1995. An announcement came out that they were looking for an executive director, and actually the way the recruitment notice was written, it talked about being engaged in sort of policy development with the board. I just thought that was really interesting and opened the door to being back in the legislature, while really focusing on the issues 20 that affect our profession, the issues that affect the courts, the issues that affect access to justice. When you are a member of the legislature, you have to deal with every issue and people from all sides of things. I used to joke that on Saturday morning I couldn’t go to Shaw’s to shop in less than three hours, because every aisle I went down, someone was saying “I have been meaning to call you.” So everything was a job. A lot of those issues don’t actually fit your resume, like with me, because I am not familiar with them. Working for the bar of which I am part, working for this profession, really attracted me. TC: Had the VBA been heavily involved in the legislature before you coming on? I ask because I think of you as being so connected with the legislature. BP: It wasn’t really the case up until my tenure. The VBA hired an outside law firm as their lobbyist, but it wasn’t exclusive, as that law firm had a number of clients. So the VBA had some presence but not the kind of presence that I developed after I got here. TC: Oh, ok, interesting. It sounds like a big part of what led you to apply for the position was to be able to be involved on that level, and in that way, regarding policy decisions for the bar. BP: Exactly! TC: During your practice, were there areas of practice that you enjoyed the most? What did you find most satisfying about your career in the legal profession? BP: Back in those days I did just about everything. It was a two- or three-person firm, and basically we did what we knew how to do. We did a lot of real estate; we did a lot of family cases; Charlie and I had a contract to do appeals for the Defender General’s system, so a lot of my time—not as much of Charlie’s—but a lot of my time was spent actually at the Supreme Court. We had an active appellate practice. TC: What was your least favorite part about practicing law? BP: Just the hassle of just running the business, and making payroll, and, you know, the HR work that had to be done, and the timekeeping. That was the first thing that everybody said to me when I moved over here. Everybody said “Well, you don’t have to keep your time anymore, so you won’t have to live life in ten to fifteen minute increments.” That was a big relief. Actually, it took a while for me, and I bet that is true for you since you left practice. It took a while for me to stop thinking that way. And for the first couple of years, I really missed being in a courtroom and being engaged in that, but then that faded. THE VERMONT BAR JOURNAL • SPRING 2016 TC: The things that you enjoyed the most, and the things that you enjoyed less, sort of sums up the practice of law today. Did you have any trepidation about taking the job? BP: I absolutely did, yeah, I absolutely did. First of all, it was running a statewide organization. I had never done that before. It was running a non-profit organization. I had never done that before. So, yes, I was