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[ I N - D E P T H | S Y S T E M AT I C I N T E R N A L I S E R S ] Hayley McDowell: One year on from MiFID II implemen- tation, how have you found the systematic internaliser (SI) landscape evolving from an execution perspective? Ben Springett: We have a more holistic view of how the execution landscape has evolved because it is not possible to determine the impact of the SI landscape in isolation. How you would use SIs is partly down to which avenues you have available to execute at a certain point in time (volume caps, order size etc.) as well as what other liquidity is available in the market at that time. However, looking solely at SIs, it’s clear that there are two very distinct flavours. First of all, you have the broker SIs which have replaced the broker crossing networks (BCNs). I would say that functionally we use broker SIs in the same way we used to use the BCNs, and I think the initial focus from operators has been on replicating historic match- ing capabilities in the new regulatory landscape, often times utilising a combination of an SI and a periodic auction on a member preference-basis. The second type of SI is the market maker, or electronic liquidity pro- vider (ELP) driven SIs, which are certainly a new dawn for us on the European trading landscape, albeit the liquidity provider operators were active in multi-lateral venues previously. These single dealer pools have been prevalent in the US previously, and as they have come into Europe they have elegantly met the definition of an SI as the legislation would expect them to look. We’ve had almost 12 months of ELP SI usage in some cases, and it’s clear that not all are created equal. There are different firms, offering prod- ucts with different strategies behind them that you should view differently. When you go to an ELP SI you need to have a clear view of how they operate, and we have been able to build up a meaningful amount of data on the variety of ELP SIs that we currently use, which we use to inform our future usage. Part of that is initial- ly deter- mined by how the op- 70 // TheTrade // Winter 2018 erator describes their model to us - maybe they propose to have low short-term impact because they have a longer holding period or a natural risk offset available to them from other strategies. In other cas- es you expect to have more short- term impact because they are very much a short-term market making operator, but until you see the data, you don’t really know. So, we have been building a dataset across a number of pro- viders and that has informed our current adoption levels along with consultations with clients. Over the course of the past few months we have seen an increase in the number of clients that are opting in to use these services, but Jefferies’ default position is to have them switched off for clients. I think that a level of maturity and understand- ing has been reached, and people have had the time to digest and we’ve also got more data to share with our clients. Matthew McLoughlin: We have a variety of fund types and trading strategies, so we have used a num- ber of the new and pre-existing venue types so far this year. I have been pleased with the innova- tion that we have seen from both brokers and execution venues. In aggregate we are reasonably happy with our experience from liquidity and reversion perspec- tives, although we have been quite selective with the venues we have interacted with. We really tried to understand each venue in terms of what they offer and the model behind that before we switched them on for trading. In general the buy-side is now comfortable using conditional or large-in-scale (LIS) order books and, now that we have more information about them, periodic auctions for orders below