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THE P RTAL February 2015 Page 20 Ecumenism Jackie Ottaway and Ronald Crane Interviewed The Revd Canon Dr Alison Joyce, Vicar of St Bride’s Fleet Street in the City of London S t Bride’s Church in London is proud of its association with newspapers and the media in general. Although the traditional “Fleet Street” has moved away, the church maintains its close association with newspapers, magazines and other media. I have known Alison for some years, and was interested to know how she saw things on the ecumenical front, now that the dear old CofE is to have women bishops. First, though, Alison told me a bit about herself. the sharp end of the divisions “I’m married to a cradle Catholic whose family is from Ireland. Both my children were baptised, had first Holy Communion and were confirmed in the Roman Catholic Church and went to Catholic schools. I’m one of the people who have had to live on the sharp end of the divisions between Anglicanism and Catholicism. It’s not theory; it has been a part of my family life for the last 27 years. My husband claims that I’m the real Catholic and he’s a liberal Protestant at heart! There is something about his Catholicism that is profoundly important to him and that is about identity. It’s tribal. “I do not lightly engage with these questions. There has been great personal cost to having conducted a marriage across ecumenical divisions. Although anyone who is a communicant in their own church is welcome to receive communion at an Anglican altar, the same does not work the other way round. nothing to do with equal rights “The second thing is, I would want to make it clear that my views on the ordination of women have never been anything to do with equal rights; I don’t believe anybody has a right to ordination. Ordination is about vocation and gift and obedience. I think people often jump to conclusions about ordained women and those who have pressed for the development of women’s ministry. I do think people who feel they have a vocation should have that tested. I asked if it all felt different now that the matter is settled. “At the moment it is like that strange time that existed after Synod had taken the decision to ordain women priests but before it became a reality, so at the moment I think we are all living in a fairly unknown space. I am both pleased and relieved that the first woman who has been selected to take on that role is contents page a parish priest. The right kind of criteria have been employed in her selection. I think that is a wise and good move and everything I have seen and heard about her since her appointment was announced has given me confidence in her. What is quite significant is that the impetus seems to be one of service, which is why I’m so opposed to the arguments about equal rights. “The glorious Church of England, being as broad and diverse as it is, is always going to mean that there will be different understandings of where truth lies - and of course it’s not just one wing of the Church of England that is resisting women’s ordination. Conversely, we will draw closer to some churches as a result of this. off the agenda. I opined, “You must agree that organic union with Rome is off the agenda.” Alison replied, “The first thing to remember is that at the present time the Roman Catholic Church doesn’t recognise Anglican Orders anyway. This represents an additional obstacle to that so it’s not been made easier, it’s been made more difficult by this particular step and there is no doubt about this.