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THE P RTAL Advent 2013 Supplement great heritage of songs and prayers and your own methods of pastoral care. Jackie: Another strong suit seems to be liturgy; what have you to say to us about our liturgical patrimony? Mgr Lopes: There are so many people who comment on the Ordinariate from the outside and ask what all this talk of patrimony is about. But that ki nd of talk is like looking at a stained glass window from the outside of a church; it’s kind of dark. You can make out a few figures and maybe even a scene, but it’s not until you enter into the church and the light pours in that you see the richness of the multi-facetted glass of different colours and that the vibrancy is brought to life. The same thing is true with the Church and the Ordinariate. The light of the Holy Spirit shining through makes all of these elements of patrimony sparkle and gives them their richness. Page iii to use the Roman Rites. So we have many people in the Ordinariate who are, well, unfamiliar with some of that wider tradition, the depth of tradition in Prayer Book forms and Anglican Missal forms of worship. In a certain sense it’s an irony because here’s this wonderful liturgical patrimony and we have Ordinariate communities saying, “Wait a minute, that’s actually quite new“. Jackie: You’ve hit the nail on the head really. Ronald: I have used the Roman Office since it came in those little loose-leaf books. Now I use the Customary; I never used it as an Anglican! As a Catholic I’ve become more Anglican! Mgr Lopes: Let’s use that line, “As a Catholic I’ve become more Anglican!” What a marvellous thing! What a marvellous way to name the insight and the truth of what Pope Benedict has done, because this To maintain your identity has never happened before. as an Ordinariate community this is the incorporation into Catholic worship of a liturgical in the context of a larger development of the Roman Rite. We here have thought a lot about what constitutes Anglican patrimony, particularly as it involves the liturgy, and we have a working definition. It is Roman Catholic parish to say that “Anglican liturgical is no small challenge patrimony is that which has Fr Geissler: We are now in the nourished the Catholic Faith, process to producing the Rites within the Anglican tradition during the time of of Baptism, of Funerals, of Marriage and also of the ecclesiastical separation, and has given rise to this Mass. It helps, I think, to realise in an integral way, new desire for full communion”. what the specific elements of Anglican patrimony are. So it’s enriching for everybody. I would say it’s “It has nourished the faith”: these expressions touching how God-centred your tradition is. This is from the Anglican prayer books and how they are important because liturgy is not about worldly things. interpreted through the years - I’m thinking of the It is about God and God’s saving work in the world Comfortable Words, the Summary of the Law, the and in our hearts. Collect for Purity, the Prayer of Humble Access these are not museum pieces. They have sustained Mgr Lopes: And this insight is very present in the people in their faith because they have given Anglican text. expression, beautiful expression, to the truth! It is a truth of God that truly liberates us and draws us Fr Geissler: Another element is the beauty of the deeper into the mystery of God and of ourselves. The language, because liturgical language should not be fact that these prayers capture this truth in such a everyday language. It should express the sacredness of magnificent way sustains faith. the mystery. It should raise our hearts and our minds to heaven somehow. “Throughout the years of ecclesiastical separation”: well, that acknowledges the fact that Anglican Jackie: We have, when we visit groups with The Portal magazine, met cradle Catholics who say they liturgical patrimony is not just 1549 or 1662, nor is are coming to Ordinariate services because they it just 1928 or 1976. We can’t go back to a specific remind them of when they were a child. period and say “this is it“, but you have to look at the whole Anglican experience to see how that faith was Ronald: We have discovered when we visit that the nourished. groups that use the ‘new old Rite’ - the Ordinariate Rite - are the groups with young people. It’s very Now we know that it’s an irony that many Angloweird. We come from a Roman Rite tradition. Catholic communities in the Church of England, The groups that have come over either use the precisely to demonstrate their Catholic Faith, chose