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world with me, where thought experiments could potentially encompass everything and engage everyone in ways that were genuinely experimental. Today all of my art projects are really thought experiments, designed to be experienced. My art is the creation of hypotheticals: Recently I’ve opened a human cloning agency using epigenetics, started a photosynthetic restaurant for plants, and given cyanobacteria access to the Hubble Space Telescope. These projects are completely open-ended. There’s nothing I’m trying to prove or demonstrate. Ideally each experiment leads to further experiments undertaken by others. It’s a positive feedback loop. The thought experiment becomes a methodology for bootstrapping curiosity. APT: How do you come up with your ideas? Can you describe any of the moments in which you got an idea that became a work of art? JK: I don’t think I could have survived in academia even if I’d wanted to. Fundamentally I’m a dilettante, and that’s the means by which I come upon new ideas. Since everything interests me, I read very widely—from antiquarian books to the latest magazines, newspapers, and blogs. I read about science and technology of course, but also politics, economics, history, religion, mythology. I’m especially obsessed with obscure details. Recently I was researching the invention of the megaphone, alloys from which world coinage is made, the nervous system of sea urchins. Mostly I’m not searching for anything in particular, but I’m always attuned to serendipity. A new project evolves out of chance relationships between topics I’m studying. I’m attentive to how disparate bodies of knowledge or belief resonate in unintended ways. For example, my photosynthetic restaurant emerged out of research on the development of French cuisine and my curiosity about greenhouse design. There was no connection between these realms, at least not until I made one, tentatively, by asking myself an odd question: What if greenhouses weren’t designed to optimize plant growth, but rather to provide plants with the enjoyment of gourmet sunlight? That led to some focused research on the physiology of plants—in terms of how different wavelengths affect photosynthesis—and also an attempt to distill some abstract rules of SciArt in America February 2014 gourmet cooking. Translating those rules into a culinary language appropriate for plants, I opened a restaurant in the gardens of the Crocker Art Museum. Technically, the restaurant was very simple: Natural sunlight passed through a succession of colored filters positioned over a tangle of rose bushes. The coloration of sunlight changed over the course of the day as the sun traversed the sky. Color combinations were selected to provide experiences equivalent to those induced in humans by a gourmet meal. For plants elsewhere around the world, I published a recipe book, and also broadcast a TV dinner for plants on a public access station in Manhattan. (Plants in front of the television were saturated in a succession of different colors.) In all of these endeavors, the thought experiment went both ways, exploring how plants experience the world, while also examining one of the behaviors that most makes us human. A lot of my projects involve the sciences in one way or another not because I think the sciences are inherently more interesting than other topics, but rather because science pervades everything in the world today. Along with religion (and often in conflict with it), science is our operating system, our underlying way of thinking. That makes it nearly invisible, all too infrequently examined. In part my projects are efforts to expose how we think about ourselves and the universe. APT: Your art puts forward many ideas, such as “art should be bland” or “there should be a law that A=A.” Is there some distance between the ideas presented in your art and your own ideas? Do you adopt fictional personae with some of these artworks? Why or why not? JK: The sort of work I do generally doesn’t have a big budget. As a result, I have to hire the cheapest available labor, and inevitably the least expensive laborer is me. So I have a sort of dual identity: There’s the experimental philosopher who’s interested in exploring ideas by setting up thought experiments; And there’s the person within the thought experiment tasked with creating and maintaining the experimental conditions as fully as possible. Since every thought experiment is different, each job is unlike any I’ve had before. When I decided to pass a perfect law—legislating the logical proposition that every entity is identical 31