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I noticed, though I wouldn’t have recognised him, that Karl Howman (the lead in Brush Strokes) actually followed in your footsteps into EastEnders. I didn’t see it but apparently he’s playing Danny’s dad, isn’t he? Danny Dyer’s dad… Danny is a really good friend of mine … he did his first job with me. We did an adaption of Hamlet. Well a take on Hamlet - it was called Prince of Denmark Hill and I played his mother, Gertrude. Danny was 17 then so I’ve known him all those years and I love him to pieces and we’re really good friends. He’s from the East End, Canning Town and he also obviously played my Steven Marriott. But going back to Brush Strokes, I loved the sort of outrageousness of it and people still say to me, “How’s your Jacko, is he still lobster fishing?” And I go “they’ve just gone lobster fishing in Ilfracombe. And they go, “Is it dinky?” I go, “Yeah, it’s really dinky.” That sort of thing… They want me to do the Gloria voice still. Funnily enough, Get Back, which I love, was my favourite series, it seems to be that every London cab driver has seen it, and when I get in they go, “Oh god, it’s you oh, I loved you in that series.” I assume “Brush Strokes?” and they say “no, no, the one with you and Ray, where you’re husband and wife and you lose all your money.” “It seems to be the favourite of cab drivers. They love it, and it is a brilliant series but not enough people saw it unfortunately. Has your son Alfie shown any interest in following in your footsteps? 14 Well, Alfie is a really great actor and when I’ve done promos for the films, I’ve made him do bits with me - he’s so good but I think, because his dad’s an actor and his mum’s an actor, a lot of his aunties are actors so he says, “but you’re really good.” But he’s really good and he does show interest in directing. He’d like to direct and produce. He studied film and got his qualifications in filming at college and his last project at college - which he came up with (he’s great at ideas, fabulous at ideas) Behind the Ball, or something like that, which was following footballers one in top level Premiership football, and then ones from Brighton & Hove Albion. It was about the difference in their lives so he shot some of that and it was just a fantastic idea so I approached some contacts of mine and we got into Brighton & Hove Albion to film. Then I told a friend of mine who had a production company and I said “oh, Alfie wants to do a bit of work experience would you sort of take him on?” And he said yes. I told him about some of his ideas and he said “that’s amazing I’m going into Channel 4 tomorrow, I’ll pitch it.” So he went into Channel 4 and I went away on holiday and he contacted me and said he’d rung Alfie but couldn’t get hold of him. I was still away when he rang me and he said he’d been into Channel 4 and that they’d loved it and then they commissioned it - so Alfie’s first project got commissioned but they wanted someone else to direct it because it fitted into their slot about new directors and Alfie didn’t have the experience of recording for a broadcast like that. Alfie was assistant director and associate producer on it and I helped. Channel 4 wanted it to be called Balls, Birds and Brighton or something like that and it was shown as a documentary. He’s 23 now and still my baby. He’ll always be my baby - he’s my one and only baby boy. He loves Brighton. I brought him here, he was around 14 and the first two weeks I’d ruined his life, obviously…and then I picked him up from school and all I could hear was, “Oh, Alfie…” and the girls, were all around him and I couldn’t see him. He then sort of popped up, and he got in the car and he said “I love Brighton, mum.” And actually he genuinely loves Brighton. He loves being here, and for me it was a great move, coming from London. I thought it would be a wonderful place for him to have his teenage years. How much would I have loved what he has, to finish school and to be able to go down to the beach with 20 of my mates and have a picnic and stuff like that? He’s made some lovely friends here and he does love it… he loves life here because it’s kind of London enough but it’s not… it doesn’t have the other sides to it, because I didn’t want that for him in his teenage years. He went to Brighton and Hove City College and I taught there for a while. I didn’t teach Alfie and now I’m the creative director of the Brighton Film School. Before we go on to more recent events, I’m going to have to ask you about your time on Eastenders…