[ 13 ] Liberation from Artadhyan and Raudradhyan 243
occur anymore , can they ?
Questioner : No , they do not happen anymore . They have stopped since the last ten days .
Dadashri : When will it occur again ? Questioner : When I see mistakes in others ?
Dadashri : Do pratikraman when he ( Chandulal ) sees mistakes . Artadhyan and raudradhyan do not occur now that You are not the doer . And if he ( Chandulal ) sees mistakes in someone , that is dravya ( effect of past life karma ); it is not bhaav ( cause ). It is considered artadhyan and raudradhyan when there is presence of bhaav . This is just the dravya – the effect . Therefore , he will end up saying things that were already filled within .
Questioner : Is it considered artadhyan or raudradhyan when he sees mistakes of others ?
Dadashri : Yes . He ( Chandulal ) will see mistakes in others if that is the kind of baggage he has brought with him from his previous life . The Self is flawless and does not see mistake in others . He ( Chandulal ) should do pratikraman when he sees mistakes in others . That is all he has to do . Everything he does in this life is a discharge of the karmic baggage he has brought with him from his previous life .
The Lord has called it dravya ( effect ). He said that it is the baggage of past life karma ( bharelo maal ) within him that is discharging . When You say that baggage of past life karma is coming out , the other person will immediately understand .
In the scriptural language it is called dravya-parinam ( effect-result ). And the other , the cause of karma , they call bhaav-parinam ( cause ).
Now , how is a person to know all such subtleties ? And