Musée Magazine Issue No. 5 Vol. 1 - Fashion | Page 13

There are fine art photographers who do fashion campaigns or fashion editorials. Here, it’s easier to go from being a fine art photographer to fashion. Is it that way in Europe? I think it’s exactly the same. We represent Sarah Moon and Guy Bourdin, both of whom have made that leap, as did Avedon. I think part of it is that the pictures in themselves are timeless and the product does not control the picture. The photographer’s signature controls the picture. That creates a distinction. Sometimes fashion photography is fine and, sometimes, 20 or 30 years after it’s taken it gets better than fine. Obviously, time will tell. But I do think one of the reasons that his work is so loved, and so collected, and so popular, is that he does not allow the fashion to control the picture. Tim has done some film, do you see him going more in this direction? No, it’s just a part of the way he expresses himself. I think he’s “visual,” to be honest. I don’t think he’s tied to anything. He doesn’t use photography as a crutch or as a cave. I think Tim is someone who likes to express himself and likes to do it in as many different and creative and positive ways as he can. But the consistency is so important. I’m sure you’d agree [with a photography book] you just want to turn every page and be delighted. Not say: “Well, there was that one at the beginning and one at the end that I liked.” I think Tim’s way of being consistent is to challenge himself all the time. Do you feel that, because of new technology, it’s important for artists to move into motion? I think it would be a very sad state of affairs if everyone followed down that path. Everyone’s looking for something new, but . . . it’s what you do with [the technology] that’s really important . . . One of the strengths Tim has — it’s not his denial of technology, it’s the fact that he doesn’t feel he needs it. He doesn’t use it to ‘dress the mutton up as lamb,’ as we would say. of other fashion, but most of it is transitory. Every day, I get calls for Guy Bourdin from people who weren’t even born when he died. They come in here with their mouths on the floor thinking: ‘no Photoshop, nothing?’ I honestly think that Photoshop has done more damage to photography, in a way, than it has helped. It’s a quick fix, but as a creative tool, I think it prevents photographers from developing their own style. If every photographer pushes his or her work through the same program, there’s a limit to what it can look like. I like to see photographers handmaking things. What would your advice be to an emerging photographer today? Give up. Give up, now! Quick! It’s a tough job out there. You’ve got to find your own signature. You’ve got to be able to say: ‘there’s no one else who could have taken that.’ Seriously, I say to most pros: ‘you’re heading into the great dark unknown and it’s an impossible job and you should look for something a little easier, like firefighting or something.’ You’re kidding, you really say that to people? I do, I’m afraid. I think it’s one of the toughest things to be really good at. There are lots of people who make a fantastic living. It’s a great life being a photographer. If you simply want to make a living that’s one thing, if you want to create a legend or testament to your talent … I think if you’re conscious of that you’ll fail straight away. But, I think it’s an obsession. It’s something that has to fill your waking and sleeping hours. Most photographers will tell you that it’s an exhausting profession because every moment of the day that you’re using your eyes, you’re looking for that picture . . . but, for commercial photography, it’s not necessarily about looking, it’s about making money and who you’re working for. I think they’re two quite different things. I think that’s so refreshing, I truly do. That’s what I would title the article, “Tim is Refreshing.” . . . I think the greatest fashion photographer in the world today, unequivocally, is Viviane Sassen. Tim and I talk about her endlessly. She bucks all of the trends; she takes black people in the midday sun, in the heart of Africa, and lets their faces go dark, and creates a wonderful visual sculpture. Sarah Moon is another person I have great faith in. I’m not saying we won’t look at a lot