iHerp Australia Issue 3 | Page 18

brown snake in the garden suits me just fine. Neville: In my case it is black snakes, Tiger Snakes and the odd Diamond Python! As possibly the worst photographer in herpetological history I am very envious of your skill with a camera! You have done quite a bit with a mutual friend, Gerry Swan. How did you two meet and are you still collaborating on projects? Steve: Gerry and I linked up via the publishers, New Holland. They were aware of both of us as herpetological authors and wondered whether we would like to collaborate on a comprehensive reptile handbook. ‘A Complete Guide to Reptiles of Australia’ is now, in 2017, in its fifth edition and current to the end of 2016. Neville: I’ll be grabbing the fifth edition for sure. What other publications have you personally authored? Steve: I have been involved in nine published books as co-author or sole author. The first was Wilson and Knowles, 1988; ‘Australia’s Reptiles’ (Collins Publishers). Other recent books include the 2012 ‘Australian lizards: A Natural History’ (CSIRO Publishing), the 2015, second edition of ‘A Field Guide to Reptiles of Queen- sland’ (New Holland Publishers), the 2016 ‘Reptiles of the Scenic Rim Region’ in collaboration with the Scenic Rim Regional Council, and as already mentioned, the 2017, fifth edition of ‘A Complete Guide to Reptiles of Australia’ (New Holland Publishers). Neville: Steve, you also work as an information offi- cer with the Queensland Museum and are involved with removing reptiles and other animals from gas pipeline trenches in parts of Australia. Can you tell us a little about this? Steve: I have been working with the Queensland Museum since around 1986. As an information officer, I educate the public, deliver talks and hope- fully instil a desire to conserve our unique biological heritage. Much of the work involves identifying specimens. Over the years this has evolved from people bringing items in, to more online communi- cation as images are submitted electronically. I prefer the good old days of face to face, but I must admit that the efficiency of receiving instant images has eliminated many of the labyrinthine descriptions of impossible creatures that leave me floundering. I have endured countless dialogues along the follow- ing broad theme: ‘It was sort of thinnish or thickish with spines/scales/fins and it looked like it was going to attack…and I can’t tell you more because it was actually my neighbour who saw it, and he reckons it’s deadly and he ought to know because he’s lived in the bush all his life…..’ Sigh. On the plus side I have met countless wonderful people, and in a sense my workplace is a focal point where so much of the public’s extraordinary observations and discoveries are channelled. These have included bags of ichthyosaur teeth, images of combating pythons hanging from gutters, so many feeding and mating events, and even a male toad trying to amplex the head of a bemused Eastern Water Dragon. It has been priceless. I have also been involved in monitoring fauna for the gas pipeline construction industry. Regardless of your views on whether gas pipelines are a good thing, when ‘pit traps’ (trenches) spanning hundreds of kilometres are being dug, clearly someone must be there to get the animals out. I have been doing this in collaboration with friend and colleague, Gerry Swan. On our first job, a 350-kilometre line from ‘Amongst the reptiles we removed from the trench were a new species of earless dragon, a probable new slender blue-tongue, and hundreds of brown snakes every colour variant you can think of.’ Moranbah to Townsville, we recorded exactly 800 snakes. Among these were over 100 Ornamental Snakes, which gave us a good insight into their population density and habitat preferences. Only a pipeline trench could produce such results. On another project, a 950-kilometre trench from east of Roma in Queensland to Moomba in SA, we removed 15,000 vertebrates. These included a new species of earless dragon, a probable new slender blue-tongue and hundreds of brown snakes of multi- ple species and every colour variant you can think of. We are currently working on a project running 450 kilometres across the Barkly region of NT. It is in its early stages, but we have already made some interesting finds and hope to compile a comprehen- sive transect of reptile distributions across the Barkly between Tennant Creek and the Queensland border. There is no more effective way of sampling a region’s reptile fauna than monitoring such an extraordinary pit trap. Watch this space! Neville: Steve it has been fascinating and thanks so much for your time.