Flipchart Number 1 Feb 2016 | Page 53

So you already said but if you could change something in non-formal education or in trainings, what would it be? I don't think I would change anything inside it, but what I would like to change is the recognition, that it would be taken more serious, that would get real placing in the community, that would have a clear concept for people. Also that games is a method and technique of learning, to take it more serious, as an overall. How many people have participated in your trainings during your career? Do you have any idea of the number? I have never counted or thought about that, but I think as a trainer in average, minimum five hundred different people a year, so that would make it ten thousand and more. Ok, last thing, one book you would recommend to our readers. Ok, it’s a very tiny book, I forgot the name, but some people may know. It’s a book from Sweden, it’s from Eric Ericsson, and it’s not his real name but a fake name. It’s a gathering of letters he writes to companies asking incredible, ridiculous questions and all the answers the companies are giving back. It is absolutely hilarious, I have laughed with it, because he is just a pain in the ass. It’s a tiny booklet. He would question the unspoken, he would question the system by sending all kind of annoying questions. Absolutely good book, nothing with education. Edited by: Olga Kuczynska So this means your work has a great impact. I have no clue, but this is also something that in non-formal education it’s a personal process so it has an impact. But on what, that is very hard to follow. We don't do tests, we don’t do evaluations, there is not so much structure, yet I believe there is a follow up, because it also depends on the participants themselves if they want to get engaged in the long term contacts, or long term process. So if it has an impact? I hope so! 54