Cliche Magazine Oct/Nov 2017 - Page 111

and skate camp. The most important thing they did was to instill in us the radical notion that what we make, what we say, and what we do create the world around us. All the kids in my family are artists and are trying to embody that idea. I think we are all trying to almost live up that idea: to live in a beautiful world, one has to live beautifully. Your name is a reference to stories that bind things together, but what does this mean to you on a personal level? What binds you together? That’s the point! I’m not sure. Or maybe I am sure and I want those holds to be stronger and better. I think of it a little bit like Marx’s levels of aliena- tion. He said that in industrialized capitalist society, because of the cost-efficient forms of mechanical labor, modern man was becoming alienated from the products he makes, the people around him, the meaning of produc- tion itself, and finally himself. Marx held the belief that the things that bind a man to what he makes define him. He thought that the things, feelings, and experiences that bind people to one another define those people. And finally he thought that without a purpose driving a man toward a meaningful goal all men can and have the freedom to share in, men will become despondent and abject. I agree with Marx. You just got off a two-month tour with Overcoats after they disco- vered you at SXSW, which must’ve been an insane experience. Can you tell us about that? We were at an urgent care taking care of a mishap and we called them to make a brunch date. They were at a different urgent care across town dealing with an unrelated mishap. Tour life. What is one thing you know now that you wish you knew before the tour star- ted? If there aren’t carpets on the floor of a hotel room, don’t stay there. www.clichemag.com You recently released Goodpain at Baby’s All Right in July. What was it like playing a release show in Brooklyn? Can you describe the night? It was an amazing night. It was a fantastic show. Had some really good friends open for me. I’m just starting to headline and it’s a very different expe- rience than opening. Playing later, playing longer, more of the crowd is for you. It’s a much more involving way to play a show, a bit more stressful, and a bit more rewarding. What has been your favorite track off Goodpain to play live and why? When I play “Goodpain,” I put my banjo down and just sing like a pop-star, and that’s super fun. “I HAVE HAD TIME TO MAKE SO MANY MISTAKES, WRONG TURNS, AND PIT- FALLS THAT HAVE CLEARED THE WAY FOR THE WORK I DO NOW.” Who have you been listening to recently? Are there any artists who heavily influenced your sound on Goodpain? Lately, I’ve been listening to lots of Tears For Fears and this guy Dorando. I love Nas, too. Besides touring, what’s next for you? Do you have any future plans made for yourself or your music? I have all sorts of plans. I want to write a book about liberation theology and the modern body politic. As for music, we head back out on tour in a couple weeks with Overcoats, and then we go out with Aquilo in October. We may hibernate for a bit before some new music in the new year. All good things. 111