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UP FRONT responsibility to deliver the worst. I appreciate the balance be- tween our great potential to cure these horrible diseases and the respect for how destructive they can be to patients’ lives. There is something about the balance of those two extremes – being at the intersection of those two dynamics – that appeals to me. Every patient interaction is unique, and it’s never monotonous ... but I could get used to staying out of the intensive care unit and just giving good news all the time. What advice or knowledge would you pass on to early- career doctors and trainees? I’ve been fortunate to work with great mentors and some giants in the field, so anything I have to share with younger doctors comes from what I observed my mentors doing. Once I became a fellow, Beverly Mitchell, MD, was the best mentor, leader, person that I could imagine. She was incred- ibly encouraging and supportive, but – and this has always been the most important thing for me – she truly led by example. She would never ask anyone to do anything that she wouldn’t do herself; that’s an important lesson in being an effective leader. Stanley Schrier, MD, is an incredible resource and arguably knows more about hematology than anyone who has ever lived. Still, while I was working with him in the clinic or accompanying him at the microscope, he never hid when he didn’t understand some- thing or didn’t know the answer to a trainee’s question. To hear Dr. Schrier say “I don’t know” is an incredible thing, because it teaches everyone that it’s okay to admit this, and it’s important for early- career folks to hear someone they respect and admire say this. Also, since coming to the University of Colorado, I’ve had the privilege to work with Craig Jordan, PhD, as my division chief. He’s supported my career and helped me grow in ways that I could never have imagined. He, along with my clinical division chief Clayton Smith, MD, dem- onstrates extraordinary leadership with their ability to bring together many different people and per- sonalities with competing views and interests. I admire (and aspire to) their skill for consensus- building and getting the best out of everybody. Mentoring the next generation ASHClinicalNews.org of clinicians and researchers is crucial, and something we should prioritize. It can be tough because I measure myself against the gi- ants I worked with and work with; I hope in time I can get closer to where they are. What do you see as the challenges to becoming a great mentor? There are many challenges. The chief one, of course, is time. And then there’s the actual work of making mentoring a priority; every- one recognizes the importance of mentorship, but when the rubber meets the road, it’s a hard thing to do. Very few people do it well, and I wish I could do it better. In a typical day, what is your rose and what is your thorn? Documentation and anything medical record–related are the thorns – those are never fun. What I look forward to the most each day is giving good news, or if that’s not possible, providing hope to patients. Where did you learn to talk with patients and have difficult conversations, like giving bad news? It’s something that you learn as you observe the people you work with and admire. It also is an ongoing effort; it starts during training, but it re- quires constant work, refinement, and prac- tice. Every day, I am a part of conversations that can go well or not, and it’s important to learn from each one and ask, “What went well?” or “What hap- pened to make things go off the rails?” Dr. Pollyea on a recent hiking trip (top) and spending time with his father in the 1980s (bottom). For me, it comes back to the golden rule: Do unto others as you would have them do unto would only work in the setting of you. That means putting fiction. myself in the other person’s situ- It’s hard to find the time to ation and thinking about how I devote to those interests with three would want to be treated. What young kids – ages 9, 7, and 4. My would I want to hear? How would time outside of work is mostly I want the conversation to go? It’s spent trying to keep up with them a simple and old-fashioned prin- ciple, but one that is valuable when and my wife, who is a graphic designer. So, that means getting having tough discussions with our them to all the activities that kids patients or their caregivers. are involved in and chasing them around; it gets busy, but the best, Are there any hobbies or most fun type of busy. interests that you’d want to I also try to spend as much explore if you had the time? time outside as possible – whether I love to travel and would love to do more of that. I also love writing that’s hiking, running, biking, or going to the mountains … It’s what and I’ve often thought about writ- ing a novel. It’s only in my head for I loved about being a camp coun- now, but some of the things that go selor when I was younger, and that hasn’t changed much. ● on in our world and in academia are so bizarre and funny that they ASH Clinical News 15